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Sep. 8th, 2005
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Sep. 8th, 2005 10:09 amDude, since when does Twisp and Catsby actually make sense? What's the world coming to?
I don't have HBP with me (because I'm at work, as I am in 99% of my LJ posts) but I was thinking about why Snape left the Death Eaters and why Dumbledore trusts him. We still don't really know. Dumbledore told us (Harry) that Snape felt really bad about the whole being responsible for the Potters' deaths thing. But he'd already left the Death Eaters at that point. According to Dumbledore in, if I'm not mistaken, PS/SS, Snape came to work for the Order while Voldemort was at the height of his power, not after Voldemort and the Potters died. Snape came to Dumbledore admitting that he felt awful about his role in the Potters' death and maybe that helped convince Dumbledore to hire Snape but that's all it did.
In OotP, when Umbridge asks Snape how long he's been a teacher at Hogwarts, he says "14 years," therefore he started teaching either two months before Voldemort and the Potters died or the year after that, depending on how Snape's counting, since it's mid-academic-year when he answers the question, if I remember correctly. So there was a period of at least a few months when Snape was a spy for the Order but not yet a Hogwarts teacher. The feeling bad about the Potters couldn't have been the reason for his changing sides or for Dumbledore trusting him to be a spy. It could have been part of the reason for Dumbledore hiring him.
I always thought that Snape started teaching they year after it all went down and Dumbledore gave him the job to help him and compensate him for his work for the Order, since his former-Death-Eater status could have prevented him from getting other jobs if it was widely known.
It's pretty clear that Alberforth is the proprietor of the Hog's Head. I don't get why it still hasn't been mentioned in the book. It was Alberforth himself who caught Snape eavesdropping on Dumbledore and Trelawney, right? So Dumbledore knew that Snape knew. They probably didn't know that Voldemort knew until someone (Snape, I believe) tipped off the Order so the Potters could go into hiding. That all happened, obviously, before the Potters died. So, assuming Snape was the one who did the tipping-off, we still have no idea why he chose to change sides in the first place or why Dumbledore let him off the hook for what he'd already done.
When the Potters died, it did confirm that Snape had been telling the truth about Voldemort wanting to kill them.
It just struck me reading HBP that we were being told that Snape's regrets over the Potters was a serious piece of evidence and it isn't really. Everything important regarding Snape in that time period had already happened, except maybe his getting hired as a teacher. Harry definitely thought that Dumbeldore trusted Snape as a result of Snape's professed repentance but Dumbledore would've had to trust Snape a few months before that, at minimum.
Tune in for the next post on why a recent "Snape is evil" post was wrong.
First I have to go to the bathroom.
In OotP, when Umbridge asks Snape how long he's been a teacher at Hogwarts, he says "14 years," therefore he started teaching either two months before Voldemort and the Potters died or the year after that, depending on how Snape's counting, since it's mid-academic-year when he answers the question, if I remember correctly. So there was a period of at least a few months when Snape was a spy for the Order but not yet a Hogwarts teacher. The feeling bad about the Potters couldn't have been the reason for his changing sides or for Dumbledore trusting him to be a spy. It could have been part of the reason for Dumbledore hiring him.
I always thought that Snape started teaching they year after it all went down and Dumbledore gave him the job to help him and compensate him for his work for the Order, since his former-Death-Eater status could have prevented him from getting other jobs if it was widely known.
It's pretty clear that Alberforth is the proprietor of the Hog's Head. I don't get why it still hasn't been mentioned in the book. It was Alberforth himself who caught Snape eavesdropping on Dumbledore and Trelawney, right? So Dumbledore knew that Snape knew. They probably didn't know that Voldemort knew until someone (Snape, I believe) tipped off the Order so the Potters could go into hiding. That all happened, obviously, before the Potters died. So, assuming Snape was the one who did the tipping-off, we still have no idea why he chose to change sides in the first place or why Dumbledore let him off the hook for what he'd already done.
When the Potters died, it did confirm that Snape had been telling the truth about Voldemort wanting to kill them.
It just struck me reading HBP that we were being told that Snape's regrets over the Potters was a serious piece of evidence and it isn't really. Everything important regarding Snape in that time period had already happened, except maybe his getting hired as a teacher. Harry definitely thought that Dumbeldore trusted Snape as a result of Snape's professed repentance but Dumbledore would've had to trust Snape a few months before that, at minimum.
Tune in for the next post on why a recent "Snape is evil" post was wrong.
First I have to go to the bathroom.
Snape's not evil. For serious.
Sep. 8th, 2005 02:59 pmI saw a link in a friend's post to someone else's "Snape is evil" post in some community and I can't be bothered to look it up but you'll probably know the one I'm talking about.
About OotP:
A big deal was made about the gap of possibly several hours between Snape figuring out that Harry and the others had gone to the Ministry and Snape alerting the Order.
I have two problems with this:
1) JKR does not put as much thought into this as we do. I seriously doubt she looked up the exact times of sunrise and sunset in Scotland in early June and planned her timeline accordingly. Sunrise and sunset are often employed by authors more to set the mood for a scene. It's not so much plot as imagery. If it were Tom Clancy, I might think differently but I don't think we're supposed to draw anything from it except that a night has passed.
2) It's likely that a few hours passed between Snape initiating contact with the Order and the Order arriving at the Ministry. He can't exactly text them all on their cell phones. JKR had told us they had a cool way of communicating with each other that's way better than cell phones or internet. Except it's not. It's patronuses. Patronuses (patroni?) have to be cast individually and they clearly travel slower than sound because Harry can see them going and make out a general shape. The Order members who wound up at the Ministry, if I remember correctly, were Sirius, Remus, Tonks, Moody, Kingsley and Dumbledore. Were Bill or Charlie there too? I don't remember but that's, at minimum, five patroni to send out, assuming one for Remus and Sirius together (because obviously they'd be sleeping in the same bed). Furthermore, patroni travel quite slowly relative to electronic signals as I mentioned and Snape's had to travel across hundreds of miles, in the case of Remus and Sirius definitely and probably Tonks and Kingley as well, since they work in the Ministry and are likely to live in London. Even getting the message out to everybody would have taken a good chunk of time (having no idea of the average velocity of a patronus, I'm not going to speculate exactly how long).
Once they got Snape's message, they'd have to coordinate with each other. They all showed up at the same time and this had to have been planned. No matter how worried about Harry they were, it would've been suicide for them to arrive separately.
JKR has lived in the north of England (I think) and knows how short the nights are in Scotland in summer. I'm sure it didn't occur to her that some of us (living at lower latitudes) would assume Snape had deliberately delayed the arrival of help for Harry and the others.
Nope, Snape's not evil. Just badass. Like in my icon.
About OotP:
A big deal was made about the gap of possibly several hours between Snape figuring out that Harry and the others had gone to the Ministry and Snape alerting the Order.
I have two problems with this:
1) JKR does not put as much thought into this as we do. I seriously doubt she looked up the exact times of sunrise and sunset in Scotland in early June and planned her timeline accordingly. Sunrise and sunset are often employed by authors more to set the mood for a scene. It's not so much plot as imagery. If it were Tom Clancy, I might think differently but I don't think we're supposed to draw anything from it except that a night has passed.
2) It's likely that a few hours passed between Snape initiating contact with the Order and the Order arriving at the Ministry. He can't exactly text them all on their cell phones. JKR had told us they had a cool way of communicating with each other that's way better than cell phones or internet. Except it's not. It's patronuses. Patronuses (patroni?) have to be cast individually and they clearly travel slower than sound because Harry can see them going and make out a general shape. The Order members who wound up at the Ministry, if I remember correctly, were Sirius, Remus, Tonks, Moody, Kingsley and Dumbledore. Were Bill or Charlie there too? I don't remember but that's, at minimum, five patroni to send out, assuming one for Remus and Sirius together (because obviously they'd be sleeping in the same bed). Furthermore, patroni travel quite slowly relative to electronic signals as I mentioned and Snape's had to travel across hundreds of miles, in the case of Remus and Sirius definitely and probably Tonks and Kingley as well, since they work in the Ministry and are likely to live in London. Even getting the message out to everybody would have taken a good chunk of time (having no idea of the average velocity of a patronus, I'm not going to speculate exactly how long).
Once they got Snape's message, they'd have to coordinate with each other. They all showed up at the same time and this had to have been planned. No matter how worried about Harry they were, it would've been suicide for them to arrive separately.
JKR has lived in the north of England (I think) and knows how short the nights are in Scotland in summer. I'm sure it didn't occur to her that some of us (living at lower latitudes) would assume Snape had deliberately delayed the arrival of help for Harry and the others.
Nope, Snape's not evil. Just badass. Like in my icon.
AHHHAHAHAHA!
Sep. 8th, 2005 03:38 pmFrom the ever-useful wikipedia:
In the English version of Kingdom Hearts, his voice was provided by Lance Bass of *NSYNC fame, a decision that was received negatively by some fans.
Lance Bass?! That is so, so wrong.
ETA: Oh, wait, that makes absolutely no sense out of context. Sephiroth. Sephiroth's voice was done by Lance Bass. OK then.
In the English version of Kingdom Hearts, his voice was provided by Lance Bass of *NSYNC fame, a decision that was received negatively by some fans.
Lance Bass?! That is so, so wrong.
ETA: Oh, wait, that makes absolutely no sense out of context. Sephiroth. Sephiroth's voice was done by Lance Bass. OK then.